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10-15-2013, 11:36 PM
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weight loss in 2006?
Looking at the brochures, all models lost anywhere from 200-500#s in 2006 over a similar model from prior years, anyone know where this weight loss came from?
Some of the prior years had weight fluctuation as well, but it only seems to occur when equipped with 13" wheels (makes sense); the 2006 models all have 15" wheels.
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10-16-2013, 12:41 AM
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wt loss
Your guess seems plausible. We advise any HiLo owner to weigh your trailer. People gear full propane tanks and water all add up.
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10-16-2013, 09:11 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by neekofab
Looking at the brochures, all models lost anywhere from 200-500#s in 2006 over a similar model from prior years, anyone know where this weight loss came from?
Some of the prior years had weight fluctuation as well, but it only seems to occur when equipped with 13" wheels (makes sense); the 2006 models all have 15" wheels.
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neekofab,
I recently sold our 2406 T and bought a Class "C" MH due to my wife's health issues. I can say one of the possibilities for the weight loss would be due to HiLo replacing the front and rear end caps [that at one time were made from fiberglass] with plastic caps. Our previous HiLo's had fiberglass caps which are much stronger than the plastic caps that develop cracks where the screws attach them to the roof. I had one appear in each front and rear cap that ran down the face of the cap and had to be covered with tape and painted.
I've never had to remove either cap but I would suspect the fiberglass caps are considerably heavier than the plastic caps accounting for some of that weight differential. A bad move by the factory so far as I am concerned.
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10-16-2013, 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted by jcurtis95
neekofab,
I recently sold our 2406 T and bought a Class "C" MH due to my wife's health issues. I can say one of the possibilities for the weight loss would be due to HiLo replacing the front and rear end caps [that at one time were made from fiberglass] with plastic caps. Our previous HiLo's had fiberglass caps which are much stronger than the plastic caps that develop cracks where the screws attach them to the roof. I had one appear in each front and rear cap that ran down the face of the cap and had to be covered with tape and painted.
I've never had to remove either cap but I would suspect the fiberglass caps are considerably heavier than the plastic caps accounting for some of that weight differential. A bad move by the factory so far as I am concerned.
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Fiberglass vs ABS would sure explain a weight difference, but did they start the ABS on the Towlites earlier then 2006? I ask as one of the 2005 TLs I looked at def had the ABS cracks, but maybe it was just a late model 2005 they started the ABS stuff on.
Anyone know for sure when they started the ABS in the Towlites? Fiberglass is a simple to repair, and lasts forever, ABS, not so much.
I'm just trying to find a 2-axle HILO around 4000# unloaded, so I figure that's probably a 22TL with options.
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10-16-2013, 09:53 PM
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Just for reference: my 2001 HiLo, a 24 footer (model 2401TD) has a sticker that says its unloaded weight is 4037-38 pounds.
I'm thinking it may even be allowing for both water and propane BUT I could easily be wrong regarding this.
If you need to lose weight - just toss the wife. Don't tell mine that I said that.
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10-17-2013, 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Wrascal
Just for reference: my 2001 HiLo, a 24 footer (model 2401TD) has a sticker that says its unloaded weight is 4037-38 pounds.
I'm thinking it may even be allowing for both water and propane BUT I could easily be wrong regarding this.
If you need to loose weight - just toss the wife. Don't tell mine that I said that.
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Loose or lose?
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10-17-2013, 03:30 PM
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Loose or lose?
Corrected for the grammar police (thanks) ... Nope, toss, as in throw away. But I guess your way works too!
The Rodney Dangerfield way towards weight reduction.
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10-17-2013, 05:45 PM
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Not looking to lose any weight, just make sure I can pack what I need. I have a 6k#s limit, and haul 2 adults and 1 tween, one small dog, and 3 kayaks on a truck rack (each Kayak is about 70# w/ gear). That's why I figure if I find something that starts at _supposedly_ 3.5k#'s in the brochure, once equipped w/ extra bits & bobs, water, and some gear we'll be at like 4.5k#'s, giving me the extra cargo weight I need on the truck.
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10-18-2013, 03:03 PM
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A 2002 22TL seems a decent model to check out, this should be what, aluminum frame and rubber roof?
Other than the tiny 13" tires with probably a lower carrying capacity and maybe making it more bouncy behind the tow vehicle, anyone have any comment on how a 2202 would be compared to others?
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10-18-2013, 06:38 PM
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any comment on how a 2202 would be
For some folks, bigger is better while for others smaller is better.
Goldilocks liked it just right ... Go with whatever gets your fancy.
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10-18-2013, 08:08 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Wrascal
For some folks, bigger is better while for others smaller is better.
Goldilocks liked it just right ... Go with whatever gets your fancy.
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I wasn't wanting to compare sizes, 22 is what I could tow with a enough of a buffer in weight to not worry about exceeding any limits, no matter how we packed. I was just curious if anyone had any insight on how a 2002 model stacks up against any of the other 2000-2010 models.
Sounds like all models got aluminum roofs in 2005, and in 2006ish or so they switched to the it_may_crack_anytime abs front/rear caps.
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