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06-28-2013, 07:36 PM
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Water Tank and Help request of jack lift point
Well the 1969 manual talks about two different water tanks systems and I'm guessing that I've got the plastic tank and pump system. When I tried it a few years ago everything worked well. Also everything looks original.
Ok, I'm thinking that over the weekend I'm going to try to jack up one side and take the wheel and tire off and check the sizing and the brakes if I can.
What would you folks use as the jack point?? I'm thinking of using the stop where the springs meet the axle. Which in the pic is #1. Or would you use the axle at point #2?
Later Tim & Nancy and a dog that wants to go camping.
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06-28-2013, 07:39 PM
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Trying this a second time
I don't know where yours should be jacked up from. To be honest I don't know where mine should be jacked up from.
As I have tandom axels I'd first try driving one wheel up on a block of wood/ leveling pads, etc. and see if that'll give me the necessary lift.
But you've got me thinking that I better check it out BEFORE I need to do so.
NOTE: I made this entry a few min ago but for some reason it was published elsewhere.
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06-28-2013, 07:49 PM
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I tricked you wrascel
I tricked you wrascel. Due to a spellllllling error in the title which I could not correct I deleted the post and corrected the title and reposted it at almost the same time. Therefore this happened.
Yes, I find it fun that there is not anything in my manual or two others that I reviewed about this. I'm sure that someone has had to jack theirs up before. Or I guess that you could lift from the body, not really
Later Tim & Nancy and the Dog
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06-28-2013, 08:18 PM
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I tricked you wrascel.
That makes you a wrascal too.
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07-01-2013, 11:25 PM
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Jack point
Jack point, Well changed the jack point to the stop just in front of where the spring meets the trailer. This way you can get the tire out without fighting the side of the trailer. Remember to block the wheel and use jack stands for safety reasons. Checked out everything in the bearing brake area. Looks good. See following thread
http://www.hilotrailerforum.com/f24/...eck-pics-3294/
Later Tim & Nancy and a dog that wants to go camping
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07-01-2013, 11:29 PM
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Rain
Well between having to work late and it raining did not get much done today. Got some great pics of a 1969 hilo from Jim. Thanks.
More later.
Later Tim & Nancy and a dog that wants to go camping.
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07-02-2013, 02:13 PM
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1977 manual
Well just reviewed the 1977 hilo manual
http://www.hilotrailerforum.com/f49/...7-2577-a-1117/
Has a nice 12volt electric drawing for the top half.
Great job of sharing manuals everyone.. Thanks
Later Tim & Nancy
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07-02-2013, 02:29 PM
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Quote:
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That is the same power cord replacement that I used on my trailer from the TV back to the terminal block mount on the side of the trailer frame.
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07-02-2013, 04:18 PM
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power
PappaP
Thanks I corrected the above post to state that the link for the cord came from you. Thanks
Powering up the hilo. I'm guessing that sometime around 1999 the hilo company started putting on a converter that was large enough (had enough amps) to handle raising and lower the top of the hilo. I would like to set something like that up sometime in the future.
Does anyone that has a hilo that can raise or lower the top just using AC 110volt know what size or anything about the converter that the hilo company installed?
What do you folks think of a convert like this one.
Progressive Dynamics PD9260CV Inteli-Power 9200 Series 60 Amp Converter/Charger with Built-in Charge Wizard : Amazon.com : Automotive
Outputs 60 amps, would something like that be large enough to handle the pump? Or does the starting pump that they used need more amps than that??
Later Tim & Nancy
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07-02-2013, 06:14 PM
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The converter/charger must work in line with the battery to raise the top. The battery is the main source of power, the converter does not supply enough power alone, it just charges the battery and supplies 12 volts to the rest of the trailer.
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07-02-2013, 09:25 PM
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RichR
Thanks and I'm guessing that is the way that it is on the new ones.
In talking with a few folks we are guessing that it can be done without the battery with a larger amp unit that I can't afford at this time. That said we feel that buying a couple of large 12volt batteries would be far cheaper.
Working on it. Tomorrow I'm buying a battery for the hilo. Then thinking about which charger to get to keep it charged.
Working on. Did not get to much done tonight because after work I got to mud and fix small holes and paint at a rental unit we own till 8:30 then drove home. More mud throwing tomorrow with some roof tar work to do also. The fun of it all.
Later Tim & Nancy
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07-03-2013, 09:31 AM
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Going with a larger amp unit will not help. The lift can require more amperage than most converters can provide and then it could be too powerful for the battery to handle when charging. The battery is a must have. I trhink others will agree.
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07-03-2013, 11:47 AM
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Kind of going off what Rich said I guess I am wondering " why" you might want to do that other than to see if it can be done. If you are in a situation where your house battery is dead having another available to jump it is extremely do-able. In fact, I tend to have one always available in my tow vehicles with a built in generator to boot. . Even those " batterey-pack " jump set-ups will work we'll. I suppose I could tear out the dc battery/ transformer in my computer and rig something so I can run more directly off ac but they seemed to have figured that out at the computer company and it works well. Why rip it up and start over?
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07-03-2013, 12:55 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 69hilo2
PappaP
Thanks I corrected the above post to state that the link for the cord came from you. Thanks
Powering up the hilo. I'm guessing that sometime around 1999 the hilo company started putting on a converter that was large enough (had enough amps) to handle raising and lower the top of the hilo. I would like to set something like that up sometime in the future.
Does anyone that has a hilo that can raise or lower the top just using AC 110volt know what size or anything about the converter that the hilo company installed?
What do you folks think of a convert like this one.
Progressive Dynamics PD9260CV Inteli-Power 9200 Series 60 Amp Converter/Charger with Built-in Charge Wizard : Amazon.com : Automotive
Outputs 60 amps, would something like that be large enough to handle the pump? Or does the starting pump that they used need more amps than that??
Later Tim & Nancy
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Thanks Tim, I didn't realize that it was a link to the original post from my cord replacement.
Here is a picture of the Converter in my unit. It is mounted upside down so I flipped the picture so you can see the model and amperage is 40amp, not sure if that is the original converter though.
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07-03-2013, 06:30 PM
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Thanks for the info
Well everyone Thanks for the info.
I still say it can be done and I have a friend or two that also state that it can be done. That said no one wanted to pony up the $500 to build the set up, when you can buy new deep cycle marine batteries for less than $90 each.
Just bought a new deep cycle Marine battery 715 cranking amp's @ 32 degrees that is. Now to review trickle chargers. Several of you folks have been kind enough to suggest ones already. I'll be reviewing those posts later. Thanks.
Well finished normally job and then did some roof work and did some drywall mud work and came home to rain. So I'm here for a few minutes then off to dinner. After dinner I might try to get out to the hilo and install the new battery and see what works and does not work.
Looking forward to a day off tomorrow for the 4th of July.
Everyone have a Safe 4th of July.
Later Tim & Nancy & a dog that wants to go camping
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07-03-2013, 09:53 PM
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Alternate trickle charger
my camper came with a good-sized solar panel on the roof (of course I don't know if it works) but it's worth considering.
Last I heard Florida was the sun-shine state (or was that orange juice?); me, I'm soggy and wet in lower Alabama.
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07-03-2013, 10:53 PM
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weather report
Today was dry in Niagara Falls,NY. The stores were crowded with many purchases for the 4th of July celebrations. Right now it is thundering and the rain has begun and is predicted to be up and down the entire east coast. Sure wish we could give our rain to parts of the USA that desperately need it. DH has a few indoor fixit projects to do for our disabled friends. Enjoy the 4th of July. Remember freedom isn't free.
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07-03-2013, 11:03 PM
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Our Fla weather report
When did this thread turn into a weather report thread.
Ok, keeping up with this change. Wet, very wet that's our area of Fla weather report. Same for the next 7 days according to the paper. It's all right it's dry in the hilo.
Later Tim
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07-03-2013, 11:07 PM
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Raising top with 110 volt AC
Raising top with 110 volt AC.
From the above posts about doing this I guess that I should add one of the things that my think tank friends asked in doing the project -- was how large an arc-welder do you think that we are going to need to take apart and rebuild to get this done. My friends and I think outside of the box sometimes. Ok, a lot of times. Lots of fun talks about a large group of projects. Sometimes they happen..
Later Tim
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