|
|
06-30-2012, 03:03 PM
|
#1
|
Member
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Washington State
Posts: 54
|
New owner of a 2001 Towlite
Greetings All!
Boy, talk about a newbie, that's me. I started out looking for a cabover camper for my 2002 Dodge Ram 1500 4X4, thinking we would be able to get in more remote places, but my wife wanted more room. We have had a van camper (loved it, easy to go anywhere, but little room inside), a cabover (a little more room, but limited size with a 1/2 ton truck), a class C motorhome (too much vehicle for my current purposes, and unless you tow a vehicle, no flexibility once you get where you are going).
Anyway, my wife kept mooning over all the room and comfort in trailers, but I have towed utility trailers cross-country several times, and I was not looking forward to a super-sized monster tied to my back end. Somehow, this 19-foot 2001 Towlite showed up, and now it belongs to us.
To show you how much I don't know, I drove a hundred miles to get it with my truck, which has a factory installed "tow package" (whatever that means), thinking I would just hook up and drive away. First surprise, the trailer has electric brakes, but I have no installed brake controller (what the heck is that?). The trailer has a seven blade electrical tow hookup, but my plug has only 5 blades connected. I could go on, but you get the idea. I don't know what I am doing.
We are heading out to Iowa and Illinois from Washington State in 2 weeks (probably will drive around 5,000 miles in a big loop), so have a very steep learning curve in front of us. Fortunately, the folks we bought the Towlite from are good people--they drove the trailer down to me this morning, and said we could call them with questions--and recommended this website for additional info.
I am not sure even what questions to ask just yet, but am on the trail to solving the electrical-tow-trailer connection problem (do I really need all 7 connectors in the plug?) and am hoping to get a sway control-weight distribution hitch in short order. Anybody have experience with a brake controller--suggestions for brand and installation? My truck has a wiring harness for the controller, and it looks like all I have to do is plug in the plug, tie into the controller, and I will have access to the hitch connector (or at least to 4 wires and a ground).
I won't overwhelm you with more questions right now, but expect to be back for a visit when I feel my feet back on the ground. Best wishes to all.
Ron and Christine
__________________
|
|
|
06-30-2012, 03:44 PM
|
#2
|
Moderator
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: NW PA
Posts: 3,386
|
Welcome to the Forum and congratulations on the new HiLo. You will definitely need six of the seven pins on the seven pin plug. Tail/running lights, left turn, right turn, brakes, 12 volt charge line, and ground. If your TV has the factory tow package all those should be pre-wired to the socket. As for brake controller, I recommend a Tekonsha Prodigy P2 controller with the plug in wire harness that fits your TV plug. Here is a wiring diagram for trailer plug to study: Trailer Wiring Diagrams | etrailer.com
__________________
__________________
My Great Wife Joyce
2018 Jayco Jay Flight 21QB
Formerly owned 1705T and 2310H
2012 F150 4X4 SuperCrew EcoBoost w/Leer Cap
Reese WD Strait-Line Hitch
Amateur Radio K3EXU
|
|
|
06-30-2012, 03:58 PM
|
#3
|
Moderator
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: NW PA
Posts: 3,386
|
The factory installed tow package normally includes: heavy duty alternator, higher capacity battery, transmission cooler, heavy duty radiator, seven pin wired trailer connection, and a Class IV/V hitch receiver. That can vary depending on make and model.
__________________
My Great Wife Joyce
2018 Jayco Jay Flight 21QB
Formerly owned 1705T and 2310H
2012 F150 4X4 SuperCrew EcoBoost w/Leer Cap
Reese WD Strait-Line Hitch
Amateur Radio K3EXU
|
|
|
07-01-2012, 12:12 AM
|
#4
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Niagara Falls,NY
Posts: 4,224
|
RJ Cronk
Since you are going on a big trip shortly you might consider having an RV place put in your brake controller and get you set up with a weight distribution /sway bars.If you prefer to do the install yourself search the internet for the best prices. Quite a few of our members are very good at finding what they need at good prices. Try E_Trailer. Or Amazon. You might even find some used equipment on Craigs list or EBay or similar sources. Check the code dates on your tires. Make sure you keep them properly inflated. We love questions so just ask away.
|
|
|
07-01-2012, 01:38 AM
|
#5
|
Member
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: MS
Posts: 39
|
Welcome and no one could ask more questions than me.... the people here are great, helpful and know what they are talking about. Have fun with your new camper!!
__________________
LEngle
1994 towlite 18TL
1999 Durango
|
|
|
07-01-2012, 10:39 AM
|
#6
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: central Virginia
Posts: 584
|
HI rgcronk
Hi rgcronk
I tried to send you a private message. Let me know if it came thru.
__________________
Jim L & Faye
2805C
2003 Silvarado diesel crew cab
2017 Silvarado, crew cab 1500 6.2L gas w/ 8 speed tranny
central VA
|
|
|
07-01-2012, 02:42 PM
|
#7
|
Member
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Washington State
Posts: 54
|
Thanks to everyone for your help. Fortunately, things are not as dire as I first thought. I did have a sleepless night trying to think everything through, but came to some good understandings. Regarding the 7 vs 5 connector plug, I actually have a standard 7 blade plug; I was looking at an adapter plug for towing a conventional utility trailer. And there is a wiring connector plug under the dashboard, so all I should have to do to connect the brake controller is buy the right harness and plug it in. I am on my way to Camping World in a few minutes to buy the Tekonsha controller and harness (thanks, Rich, for that suggestion).
The folks I bought the truck from said it had all the tow package stuff--radiator, transmission cooler, etc.--so I should be okay there. I recently had the transmission and both differentials serviced, and had the mechanic check belts, hoses, plugs, etc., so I should be okay there.
My current question has to do with the sway control/weight distribution hitch. I bought an Equalizer model 1722, rated at MGTW of 10,000 lbs and MTW of 1,000 lbs. I got it from Craigslist, everything is there and in excellent condition, for $300. Then I looked around the web to see other users' experiences (maybe should have looked first?). I saw where one user said the sway control was so stiff, it damaged the trailer tongue. Anyone know anything about that. I had watched the Equalizer videos, and it looked great--easy connection, combined sway/weight distribution--and I knew that it could handle more weight than I needed, but I thought maybe more was better. If I have to, I'll put it back on Craigslist, and find another one. Would appreciate any thoughts you might have.
That's all for the right now. I do appreciate your help--and patience--as we get up to speed. I suspect the next major questions will have to do with the Towlite itself. Like, for example, how the heck does the electrical inverter/converter work--I assume it has one. Again, thanks for your help and patience.
Ron
|
|
|
07-01-2012, 04:52 PM
|
#8
|
Site Team
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Pine, AZ
Posts: 4,692
|
Ron, I think the Equalizer Hitch you are buying will work. I have the one rated just below yours for my 17 ft Towlight (600/6000#) and my tongue load is just under 600# if I fill the fresh water tank. Your tongue load could be a tiny bit higher, depending on the distance from the axle to the hitch. I see that our max gross weights are the same though.
You could function with a hitch like mine, but I just don't see the extra 400# making that much difference.
I've found the hitch to be very trouble free, and pretty easy to hook up or unhook.
The electrical converter is simple. You just plug the thing into shore power and it charges the battery, gives you 12 V power to the components that need that and also gives you 110 V AC power for things like the air conditioner that need AC. If you unplug the converter, you have only 12 V DC battery power. It charges the battery at a decreasing rate when plugged in so it should not damage the battery through overcharging.
You should have room up in the battery box for a second battery to hook up in parallel, and I'd recommend you get that for boondock camping.
- Jack
__________________
Hi-Lo 1707T - Tire Minder TPMS on Tow Vehicle and Trailer, 300W Solar Battery Charger, Equal-i-zer WDH, Progressive Dynamics Converter, Fan-Tastic Fan, LiFePO4 battery 12V DC Electrical System, SoftStartRV mounted on A/C
2024 F150 Platinum FX4 3.5L PowerBoost SCrew
|
|
|
07-01-2012, 06:28 PM
|
#9
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Arizona
Posts: 180
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by rgcronk
My current question has to do with the sway control/weight distribution hitch. I bought an Equalizer model 1722, rated at MGTW of 10,000 lbs and MTW of 1,000 lbs. I got it from Craigslist, everything is there and in excellent condition, for $300. Then I looked around the web to see other users' experiences (maybe should have looked first?). I saw where one user said the sway control was so stiff, it damaged the trailer tongue. Anyone know anything about that. I had watched the Equalizer videos, and it looked great--easy connection, combined sway/weight distribution--and I knew that it could handle more weight than I needed, but I thought maybe more was better. If I have to, I'll put it back on Craigslist, and find another one. Would appreciate any thoughts you might have.
|
Ron, that is the same WD hitch that I have also and so far it works great. I'm pulling a 29B Classic and it really handles nice. I think the tongue weight of mine is around 700-800lbs if I remember right. I don't feel any sway, which was my main concern pulling a long trailer. You should be fine, I have learned that it is a lot easier to just leave the hitch on my truck and pull only the sway control bars off when I am not using the hitch. Its a lot easier on the back, as I used to lift and hook up the whole hitch assembly each time I needed to use it. Also if you ever decide to get a bigger HiLo your set
Welcome to the forum also! I can say I am fairly new here also and found a lot of useful information and people here.
__________________
PappaP
Former Owner of a 1999 Classic HiLo Model 29B
|
|
|
07-01-2012, 07:27 PM
|
#10
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Niagara Falls,NY
Posts: 4,224
|
Getting set up for towing
Seems like you are on the right track with getting set up for towing. Remember we all were newbies at one time. Keep asking for advice that is what we are here for. Get the presidents club at Camping world and join Sams club. The magazine highways is good. Keep posting.
|
|
|
07-01-2012, 07:58 PM
|
#11
|
Moderator
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: NW PA
Posts: 3,386
|
The stories you heard about the hitch may have been from people that didn't have the proper rated hitch to match the trailer or didn't have them set up properly. That is why there are instructions included with them. I know, real men don't need instructions. NOT!
__________________
My Great Wife Joyce
2018 Jayco Jay Flight 21QB
Formerly owned 1705T and 2310H
2012 F150 4X4 SuperCrew EcoBoost w/Leer Cap
Reese WD Strait-Line Hitch
Amateur Radio K3EXU
|
|
|
07-01-2012, 09:05 PM
|
#12
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Wisconsin
Posts: 1,256
|
Ron, welcome.
The next thing to check before long trip is tires and bearings. Check dot code for tire mfg date as there was an interesting thread here recently on that topic. I have relatively "new" tires on my 22tl but they are five Years since mfg date. I havent got rid of them but I am keeping an eye on them. Check everything else out,of course and let us know if there are other issues. If you run into a puzzler it is likely someone here knows what to do about it. Have fun.
Rick
__________________
2201 TL
2010 Nissan Titan king cab SE
4x4
|
|
|
07-01-2012, 09:37 PM
|
#13
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Wisconsin
Posts: 1,256
|
One more thought-
I am also a relatively new owner and just went through the weight dist hitch dilemma. If that set up does turn out to be too stiff- on some set ups you can get different rated "bars". There is a decent tutorial on e-trailer on figuring tounge weight which includes calculating the weight behind the wheels of your TV and adding that to the equation. I have an f150 and I tend to carry most my gear in the truck ( chairs, grill, cooler ,etc) so I figured that stuff and where i would be putting it into my equation. My tongue weight of just trailer is a bit over 600 lbs on my 2001 22ft with two batterys up front and double propane tanks filled S0-I went a bit higher with an 800 ib set of bars.
I went to a scale and weighed the truck with just me in it. I then hooked up trailer and weighed both at same time. The difference, of course, is weight of trailer. Then- I pulled truck OFF the scale and just left the trailer on the scale while still hooked up. The difference between THAT weight and the trailer weight is your tongue weight. That should be a good place to start on figuring where your parameters are and you can calculate gear loads etc from there. It take some messin around to figure correct ball height etc but the advice I got was to just take my time and have a can of beer nearby to sit and contemplate with and take the edge off adjusting things. That worked.
Good luck
Rick
__________________
2201 TL
2010 Nissan Titan king cab SE
4x4
|
|
|
07-02-2012, 06:58 PM
|
#14
|
Member
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Washington State
Posts: 54
|
Thanks to everyone for your help. I appreciate the info about the Equalizer hitch. The thing is a monster, must weigh 100lbs assembled. I will get it installed this week.
A follow-up regarding the 7 plug dilemma: I backed up to the plug yesterday, plugged it in, and I'll be--everything works! I ordered a new Tekonsha P3 controller with the wiring harness from an eBay company, should be here Friday, so I will plug that in and get it programmed this coming weekend.
In the meantime we are checking out all the interior stuff: water, lights, refrigerator, cabinets, storage places, etc. So far, everything looks good. A few dings and bumps, but it is 11 years old. Next up is figuring out the mechanism of the trailer lift system, in case of failure a long way from home. That and the running gear.
We will be hitting the road in exactly 2 weeks for a +/- 5,000 mile run, so we have our hands full getting familiar with the new rig. If you have any suggestions or ideas as to "surprises" I might encounter, I would appreciate your comments. The fewer surprises, the better. Again thanks for all your help.
Ron
|
|
|
07-02-2012, 07:34 PM
|
#15
|
Moderator
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Napa,CA
Posts: 933
|
Ron,
Make sure that you take jumper cables with you on your trip. If your trailer house battery goes dead, you can jump from your tow vehicle battery to the trailer battery and lift or lower the top.
Do not attempt to move your trailer with the top in the up position.
__________________
Les & Patricia
2006 22ft towlite (replaces 97 21TL)
2006 Toyota tacoma pre-runner 4.0 L V-6 quad cab
w/ 98 chevy Powervision towing mirrors
2017 Chevy Silverado 1500 5.3 v8 (replaces Toyota)
2 Hobie mirage pedal drive kayaks
|
|
|
07-02-2012, 09:40 PM
|
#16
|
Moderator
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: NW PA
Posts: 3,386
|
HiLo Videos
If you haven't watched the HiLo videos that were placed on YouTube you should take the time to do it. It features Larry Mills who was the son-in-law of the HiLo company owner showing how the different systems operate and also some maintenance guidelines.
http://www.hilotrailerforum.com/f49/...-youtube-1233/
__________________
My Great Wife Joyce
2018 Jayco Jay Flight 21QB
Formerly owned 1705T and 2310H
2012 F150 4X4 SuperCrew EcoBoost w/Leer Cap
Reese WD Strait-Line Hitch
Amateur Radio K3EXU
|
|
|
07-03-2012, 04:52 PM
|
#17
|
Member
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Washington State
Posts: 54
|
Rich, the HiLo videos were just what I needed. Thanks, again, to everyone for your suggestions.
Ron
|
|
|
07-04-2012, 11:46 PM
|
#18
|
Member
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Washington State
Posts: 54
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by sam
Seems like you are on the right track with getting set up for towing. Remember we all were newbies at one time. Keep asking for advice that is what we are here for. Get the presidents club at Camping world and join Sams club. The magazine highways is good. Keep posting.
|
Sam--
Good advice on the Camping World President's Club--did it. Thanks! We were members there a few years ago, but forgot about it. Looks like we will be paying regular visits there for a while.
Ron
|
|
|
07-05-2012, 12:03 AM
|
#19
|
Member
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Washington State
Posts: 54
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by JackandJanet
You should have room up in the battery box for a second battery to hook up in parallel, and I'd recommend you get that for boondock camping.- Jack
|
Great idea! Thanks. Ron
|
|
|
07-05-2012, 12:04 AM
|
#20
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Niagara Falls,NY
Posts: 4,224
|
Camping World Master catalog
Get this master catalog as it is a good reference. I even carry one in the HiLo as things break while camping. t is good to be able to look for parts. Camping World isn't always the cheapist. Check prices on the internet and go with the cheapest. Camping world seems to jack up the shipping price. I have fun spending other peoples $ !! Buy what you can at Walmart in the RV section.
__________________
|
|
|
|
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off
|
|
|
|
» Recent Threads |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|